Bucket Seat "Upgrade"?

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Re: Bucket Seat "Upgrade"?

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This is just way too complicated for me. Somebody here said the later-model Pickup/Rodeo seats would "bolt right in". Nope.
  1. Height is fine, just about perfect.
  2. They're of course a bit thicker than the bench, which means a bit less legroom and quite a bit less space behind the seat.
  3. Width isn't bad. I should have room for something in the middle, maybe a console with a sub in it (see #2).
  4. But the mounts just DO NOT line up with any existing holes.
Here they are, just sitting in the cab.
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So getting them mounted is my next challenge. There are NO tracks or mounting holes on the inside (next to the transmission tunnel). I know Isuzu offered bucket seats in 1983, so I'm really puzzled at how they mounted them.

The floor has a brittle covering that looks like it was intended to deaden sound. It was perforated in the area where I expected to find mounting holes, so I chiseled it out of the way. Nothing.
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Anbody got any suggestions?

Jack
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Re: Bucket Seat "Upgrade"?

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After fiddling with these, I decided they'd need as much fabrication as anything else. At best, I could re-use only one mounting hole. They were also a bit tall. Headroom was fine, but my legs felt too close to the wheel to comfortably clutch and brake.

I returned them to Pull-A-Part, and spent about an hour walking around and taking pics. The most promising seats I saw were in a 2016 Ford Fiesta, and a 2011 Fiesta. The 2011 Fiesta had really nice power seats (I think the trim may have been leather). If I had seen them before our recent snow and rains, I'd have probably bought them. But they had a puddle of snow/ice that had repeatedly thawed and froze in the upholstery and cushion.

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Re: Bucket Seat "Upgrade"?

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You'd think a seat from a civic or accord would work. The back of the Pup cab is what really limits driver space
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puttputtinpup wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:45 am You'd think a seat from a civic or accord would work.
I don't remember why I stopped looking at those. I may have to take another look.
puttputtinpup wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:45 am The back of the Pup cab is what really limits driver space
Definitely! Especially if you have long legs. The Rodeo seatback seemed thicker than seats from subcompacts.

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I'm using 1984 Trooper's bucket seat with tracks. I have to modify the mount to floor, but it's worth to get the seat moving slightly front and back and can reclined a little.
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And to get the 1981 the, I modify the bucket into high back version
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And yes it has SpaceCab console box in middle 8)

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Another "hunting trip" today. I came back with these, from a 2013 Ford Focus. I saw them on a previous visit, but they were snow-covered and I assumed they would be ruined. They seem to have survived the weather surprisingly well.
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I'll post more pics as the cleanup and install progresses.

Oh, and they're leather, and the driver's seat is power-adjustable. There are several wires on both seats. I don't know if that's for the airbags or if it's for heat. We'll see.

And I used a neat trick I found online, to actuate the power seats so you can uncover the mounting bolts. I took an 18v drill battery along, and connected the fore/aft drive motor wires to it to make it move. Easy peasy!

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Re: Bucket Seat "Upgrade"?

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Nice try, but no. See pics.
The seat base is too tall / too close to the steering wheel.
The seat base is too tall / too close to the steering wheel.
Even all the way back, not enough room.
Even all the way back, not enough room.
These will go back to the salvage yard (where they will tell me to put them in the dumpster).

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"These will go back to the salvage yard (where they will tell me to put them in the dumpster).
Jack"

I've been wondering what you were doing with all the seats you've been bringing home. So they'll refund your $$? Seems a waste to throw them away. Looks like they'd have you put them back in the car if it's still there.

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Mike, it really does seem like a waste.

I threw the RAV4 seats away before I found out I could return them for credit. I returned the Rodeo seats and received a full refund (a credit on my Pull-A-Part card, good for future yard entry and purchases).

The other two yards in town don't have such a liberal return policy.

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I need to get back on the hunt. I bought a nice factory console from someone on the PlanetIsuzoo.com site. And of course, it won't work with a bench seat.

Pics to come.

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Re: Bucket Seat "Upgrade"?

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Why not buy universal sliding brackets and drill hole in floor to mount? Most seats will bolt up to good quality universal brackets. Ive done this in other cars before.
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mja wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 1:39 am Why not buy universal sliding brackets and drill hole in floor to mount? Most seats will bolt up to good quality universal brackets. Ive done this in other cars before.
My first problem is finding seats that fit the truck, and fit me. I'll worry about how to mount them once I get them.

In my pics above, you can see the issues I've run into. Seats are too deep (too thick) and/or too tall.

I know others here have used a variety of seats -- but from their pictures, it looks like they gave up quite a bit of legroom. I can't afford to do that.

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Re: Bucket Seat "Upgrade"?

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Many OEM seats since the mid/late 00s have higher vertical seat mounts. The only seats I can think of that sit lower than an old RAV4 are a Miata or Fiero. (Focus seats are surprisingly tall, just like the Cruze/Sonic.) Fiero seats are a little longer than Miata seats. Perhaps 90s Civic seats would fit. Not even sure if other roadster seats like Solstice would fit. There were cheap racing seats called garage pro seats from JC Whitney 15-20 years ago that would fit a Miata. This sounds like a Craiglist buy rather than junkyard find since any OEM low seat may have been picked for racing builds. Good luck 🤞
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mja wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:02 am Many OEM seats since the mid/late 00s have higher vertical seat mounts. The only seats I can think of that sit lower than an old RAV4 are a Miata or Fiero. (Focus seats are surprisingly tall, just like the Cruze/Sonic.) Fiero seats are a little longer than Miata seats. Perhaps 90s Civic seats would fit. Not even sure if other roadster seats like Solstice would fit. There were cheap racing seats called garage pro seats from JC Whitney 15-20 years ago that would fit a Miata. This sounds like a Craiglist buy rather than junkyard find since any OEM low seat may have been picked for racing builds. Good luck 🤞
Unfortunately, Miatas and Fieros are really rare at my local yards. But you and Andy (puttputtinpup) mentioned Civic seats. I'll keep my eyes open for those, they're a little more common. At this point, I'm not particular about condition, I expect to have them re-upholstered.

I was talking with Mark (arrowmntdiesel) today, and he has some new factory inner seat rails for the P'up. They are to be spot-welded or bolted in. That would simplify things a lot -- I'd at least have two parallel rails.

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By the way, I found this console on the PlanetIsuzoo.com forum, and couldn't pass it up. If I ever get buckets installed, this should fit nicely!
(Note: I already had the gauge console, it's the one with the armrest that's new.)
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