Using c240 parts to turbocharge your c223

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I've been thinking that the 1548 might be the one I end up using. $1,000 is high for that unit. I'm very interested in your project. Think the C240 exhaust manifold would interfere with a stock C223 intake?
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I found the 1548 on a couple other sites for $640. That's new, if one had the time they could probably pick one up off eBay used for 1/3-1/2 the price. I haven't mocked everything up yet on a head, I'll do that once i get the manifold drilled and tapped. I don't think the manifold will be a problem though, we'll see. My goal here is to build a factory looking, better-than-factory performing, yet affordable turbo kit.
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if it's any help I put a a/r51 garret that came off a perkin's diesel on a n/a c-223 no lag 15 lbs easy. and with fuel turned way up makes 23 lbs at the drag strip run's great. I can get the numbers to you if you need them
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Whats the make and model of the turbo? Does it have the 4 bolt t25 inlet flange and the 5 bolt discharge pattern? I'm looking for a turbo that is a drop in replacement/ upgrade for the factory 223t. Most are capable of fabbing stuff up to retrofit a different turbo, but a direct bolt on will save time and money and is alot more convenient.
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Started machining the exhaust housing. I machined the the face of the flange flat so that the turbo would sit flat and seal up good. I then drilled the 4 holes that will be tapped and studs installed. Next I started milling out the hole into a rectangle to match the turbos rectangular inlet. I seriously underestimated how much material had to come out, so far I've spent around 3 hours on it, probably have another 6 to go. If this proves to be a good candidate for turbo conversions, I'll look into some new tooling that could cut that time down to half or more. The housing could be used stock, but opening it up and matching it to the turbo will keep the backpressure low.
Flange is decked and holes drilled ready to be tapped for studs. I'll get a pic of it in the middle of it getting milled out to match the turbo.
Flange is decked and holes drilled ready to be tapped for studs. I'll get a pic of it in the middle of it getting milled out to match the turbo.
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Looking good! How is the old cast cutting?

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Not too bad, I'm using HSS end mill in the pics. I think if I invested in a carbide tipped unit I could really speed through it. At the moment I'm only taking off .010" on every pass, and going down 1.75-2". It takes awhile.
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Joe,

Question: any chance opening the exhaust that much will reduce exhaust pressure/velocity to the point of having a negative effect on turbo spooling?
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Tom,

I don't think so, because the turbines exducer is still the same size. Plus I'm only matching the manifold to the turbo. I would compare it to a garden hose with a spray nozzle on the end. Now take away the garden hose and adapt a 4" fire hose to it. Only so much water can come out of that nozzle no matter the hose size.
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joeshmoe44883 wrote:Tom,

I don't think so, because the turbines exducer is still the same size. Plus I'm only matching the manifold to the turbo. I would compare it to a garden hose with a spray nozzle on the end. Now take away the garden hose and adapt a 4" fire hose to it. Only so much water can come out of that nozzle no matter the hose size.


Yep. I see now. Keep us updated on your progress!

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I just found a c240 in an old generator. Is it a good candidate to turbo charge and put in a truck?
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I wouldn't plan on getting it on the highway, the redline is only 3 grand.
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Halden wrote:I wouldn't plan on getting it on the highway, the redline is only 3 grand.

Highway? He's in Hawaii. :lol:

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Re: Using c240 parts to turbocharge your c223

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what can I do to make it a higher rpm motor? Im not worried about pulling it apart and buying some parts.
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