emissions delete/perfect threaded plug for open holes

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emissions delete/perfect threaded plug for open holes

Postby 89rebelpup » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:05 am

For all those who have removed their emissions equipment and realized how difficult it is to locate the exact size of M14x1.25 in a bolt, plug, cap or any possible threaded contraption ever created... I may have figured it out!

If I am not the first or if it has been tried and found to be another failure forgive me and I'll be okay with that and we can move on! :)

Go to most any parts store, walk back to the motor oil and associated equipment and look for the display containing replacement vehicle oil pan plugs.. among the various sizes available you should find both magnetic and non-magnetic plugs sized M14x1.25! ..I have found that usually each store only stocks one or two of any size so it may take a couple stops but finally the search is over, the mystery is solved and the 4 holes in the engine can be properly filled in a neat and orderly fashion.

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emissions delete/perfect threaded plug for open holes

Postby puttputtinpup » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:18 am

Sounds good! Thanks for sharing that with us,
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Re: emissions delete/perfect threaded plug for open holes

Postby oldestisuzuist » Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:53 am

Just be aware that the oil drain plug head may be too big to fit into the head recess plus the recess is tapered, not flat. The hex portion of the original air rail fitting is quite small & fits within the head recess. The fitting actually seals on the bottom against a slight lip in the head, not against the bottom of the hex portion. Oil drain plugs are probably too short to seal against the lip, so you may experience sealing problems.
Also on rare occasions you may develop a "chirping" after replacing the air rail fittings with something else that is shorter than the original. This is caused by the exhaust gas pulses passing across the open hole in the runner left when the air rail fitting is removed, similar to blowing across a bottle neck.
My recommendation is to use the original threaded air rail fittings, they seal properly, fit into the head recess & don't cause weird noises. Cut the air rail pipes & remove from the fittings, then plug the hole in the fitting (drill & tap for a bolt, solder/braze, liquid weld), re-install the fitting.
Do something similar to the M22x1.5 fittings on each end of the EGR tube at the intake & exhaust manifolds to remove even more emissions.
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Re: emissions delete/perfect threaded plug for open holes

Postby 89rebelpup » Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:05 am

I respect your opinion and wisdom on the matter,

Previous to buying my pickup the seller had removed the air rail fittings and replaced them with these bolts that are way too long but they tighten. Until I read here on isuzupup and experienced the impossible search for a suitable filler firsthand I assumed after the purchase I could just buy shorter bolts.
Uh.. yeah NO!
On another but now known to be a related note, before my purchase of my pickup I mentioned the "chirping" sound when accelerating and neither of us associated the incorrectly seated bolts and the chirping. The seller said he thought it was probably just a loose exhaust flange bolt and he or I could tighten it and that sound would go away. That made close enough sense to me so I agreed to just handle it myself after the sale.
But then I found nothing loose or leaking and learned here how the two are related. Then while researching the elusive size and thread patterned bolt I stumbled on this idea. Personally I believe it will work even if it doesn't silence the chirp (kinda gotten use to the unique sound actually) at least the holes will be sufficiently sealed-up and it will look alot better than known alternatives.
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Re: emissions delete/perfect threaded plug for open holes

Postby 89rebelpup » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:44 am

Dumping the nylin washer for aluminum washer, why wouldn't these work?

http://www.clipsandfasteners.com/Oil_Dr ... a18024.htm

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Re: emissions delete/perfect threaded plug for open holes

Postby 89rebelpup » Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:19 pm

http://www.s4offroad.com/Isuzu-Air-Galley-Plugs.html

BAM!...
Look what I found.. why had I not found this back in 2016?

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Re: emissions delete/perfect threaded plug for open holes

Postby oldestisuzuist » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:16 am

89rebelpup wrote:http://www.s4offroad.com/Isuzu-Air-Galley-Plugs.html

BAM!...
Look what I found.. why had I not found this back in 2016?

Perfect solution, except they're $25 EACH.
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Re: emissions delete/perfect threaded plug for open holes

Postby 89rebelpup » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:40 pm

Oh no doubt.. that's what is keeping me from replacing the Frankenstein looking bolts currently in place on my engine

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Re: emissions delete/perfect threaded plug for open holes

Postby AJ Dragon » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:46 pm

Hi

Those are a tad bit on the spendy side, I am also using Frankenstein bolts on mine.

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Re: emissions delete/perfect threaded plug for open holes

Postby 89rebelpup » Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:00 pm

My Frankenstein bolts would be ok if only they were 14mmx1.25 instead of 14mm(maybe even 9/16)x1.50 and 2.00!... I recently bought a 14mmx1.25 thread chaser and will be rethreading and installing something..what exactly I do not know yet.. but something that is the correct size & thread.

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Re: emissions delete/perfect threaded plug for open holes

Postby oldestisuzuist » Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:38 pm

89rebelpup wrote:My Frankenstein bolts would be ok if only they were 14mmx1.25 instead of 14mm(maybe even 9/16)x1.50 and 2.00!... I recently bought a 14mmx1.25 thread chaser and will be rethreading and installing something..what exactly I do not know yet.. but something that is the correct size & thread.

FYI you can use an old 14mm spark plug, cut off the bottom electrode & break the ceramic top off for a cleaner look.
Or there's these https://www.ebay.com/itm/4x-M14-x-1-25- ... :rk:7:pf:0
These are even cheaper if you want to wait for shipment from China https://www.ebay.com/itm/4pcs-M14-x-1-2 ... :rk:8:pf:0
Cost of either of the latter two should be close to that of oil drain plugs & the BMW lug bolts should go down into the recess into the head & probably seal at the bottom like the stock air rail fittings.
'78 Chevy LUV,1.9,4sp,headers,31's,SAS Dana 30,Dana 20,SOA rear w/Aussie Locker, body ROUGH, bought new 12/4/78. A pre-P'up?
'87 Trooper,2.3,5sp,headers,31's,ball joint flip & spacer,Aussie Locker rear,Superwinch hubs,brush guard w/5.5K winch.

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Re: emissions delete/perfect threaded plug for open holes

Postby 89rebelpup » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:15 am

Not too..too bad
Modified a Dorman brand oil drain pan plug and after rethreading the hole best I could, I tightened it until it felt lt was as tight as it would get.. possibly bottomed out.
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